From Sporing Life April 25 1908
Wagner Signs Yields to the entreaties of President Pulliam, of the National League, and President Dreyfuss, and Reports for 1908 Season.
Pittsburgh April 17. Hans Wagner, the world's greatest ball player, this evening attached his name to a Pittsburgh contract, and at 9:30 tonight left for Cincinnati in personal
charge of President Dreyfuss,
who announced that
the big fellow would be in
the opening game of the
Pittsburgh team there tomorrow. It is understood that
for some days past Wagner
has been wavering, and this
afternoon he sent word that
he would be in the office of
the Pittsburgh Baseball Club
between 5 and 6 o'clock, -at
a time when there was little chance of newspaper men
being on hand. President
Dreyfuss, in company with
President Pulliam, of the National League, met THE BIG SHORT STOP
at the appointed time, and in a few minutes
it was all over. Harry Smith, the Massilon
John Wagner
(Ohio) catcher, who went to "his home some
days ago without signing his contract, also
sent word that he would accept terms and
would meet the team at Cincinnati. President Harry Pulliam was in attendance at
the conference and induced Wagner to sign.
It is understood that one of the conditions
imposed by the big fellow tonight was that
nothing would be said about his signing,
that he would be allowed to rush to Cincinnati quietly and surprise all the gang
there on their arrival tomorrow morning to
open the game. , For this reason Wagner
was not seen before he left, he being hurried to the train by Mr. Dreyfuss.
TERMS SECRET.
There is no telling what terms were
reached between Dreyfuss and the big shortstop.
Wagner weakened the first day of
the season is known. He was at Cambridge
Springs, 100 miles above Pittsburgh, when
the game opened, and he had difficulty in
finding the scores that night. Next, morning Hans was waiting for the daylight train
to carry him. out of Cambridge Springs to
Pittsburgh or some point where he could
at least hear scores the same night games
were played. He grew brave as he neared
Pittsburgh, and on arriving told Dreyfuss
he would not sign no, not in a million
years. But he did tonight.
Saturday, December 6, 2014
Game 18: April 16, 1908 CHC @ CIN
3 0
(2-1) (1-2)
BOXSCORE: 1908 Chicago Cubs At 1908 Cincinnati Reds 4/16/1908
Cubs AB R H RBI AVG Reds AB R H RBI AVG
J.Slagle CF 4 1 1 0 .083 M.Huggins 2B 3 0 0 0 .200
J.Sheckard LF 2 0 0 0 .000 H.Lobert LF 4 0 0 0 .000
W.Schulte RF 3 1 0 1 .100 M.Mitchell RF 3 0 0 0 .125
F.Chance 1B 3 0 1 0 .273 J.Ganzel 1B 2 0 0 0 .000
H.Steinfeldt 3B 4 0 1 1 .200 A.Schlei C 4 0 0 0 .250
J.Evers 2B 2 1 0 0 .000 M.Mowrey 3B 4 0 0 0 .200
J.Tinker SS 3 0 0 0 .111 D.Paskert CF 3 0 0 0 .222
J.Kling C 3 0 1 1 .250 R.Hulswitt SS 3 0 1 0 .333
E.Reulbach P 2 0 0 0 .000 A.Coakley P 2 0 0 0 .000
-- -- -- --- -- -- -- ---
Totals 26 3 4 3 Totals 28 0 1 0
Cubs............ 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 - 3 4 0
Reds............ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 1 0
Cubs (2-1) IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA SCORESHEET
E.Reulbach WIN(1-0) 9 1 0 0 5 1 0 121 0.00 A1
Totals 9 1 0 0 5 1 0
Reds (1-2) IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA SCORESHEET
A.Coakley LOSS(0-1) 9 4 3 3 6 0 0 151 3.00 A1
Totals 9 4 3 3 6 0 0
ATTENDANCE- 30,205 DATE- Thursday, April 16th 1908 TIME- Day WEATHER- Good
T- 1:20
LEFT ON BASE- Cubs: 4 Reds: 6
DOUBLE PLAYS- Cubs: 0 Reds: 2
RBIs- W.Schulte(1st), H.Steinfeldt(1st), J.Kling(1st)
STOLEN BASES- J.Slagle(1st), F.Chance(1st)
CAUGHT STEALING- J.Sheckard
SACRIFICE HITS- J.Tinker, E.Reulbach
WALKS- J.Sheckard-2, W.Schulte, F.Chance, J.Evers-2, M.Huggins, M.Mitchell,
J.Ganzel-2, A.Coakley
STRIKE OUTS- M.Mitchell
GIDP- W.Schulte, J.Tinker
RLISP 2-out- J.Ganzel, M.Mowrey, H.Steinfeldt, J.Slagle, J.Tinker
Ed Reulbach took a no-hitter into the 7th inning at Palace of the Fans as the
Chicago Cubs beat the Cincinnati Reds by the count of 3 to 0.
Reulbach(1-0) was tremendous on the mound for Chicago. He allowed just 1 hit
and 5 walks in 9 innings. The right-handReulbach had his no-hit bid broken
up by Rudy Hulswitt who singled with two outs in the 7th inning. Chicago
managed only 4 hits on the afternoon.
Andy Coakley(0-1) suffered the loss. 'We didn't have a whole lot of chances
today,' Cincinnati's manager said. 'Reulbach just was too much for our
guys.'
Slagle had the first bit of offense in the cubs fourth with a base hit. He would later score on a ground ball off the bat of Schulte. Ruelbach didn't give the Reds much he did allow six walks but only allowed one Red to reach second base. The only hit was off the bat of hulswitt in the bottom of the seventh. One strikeout was all he needed to complete his first win of 1908. He looked very sharp. He will have surely make a start very soon as Mordecai Brown is still on family leave. The Cubs finish the series taking two from the Reds to open the season. Cubs board a train to St. Louis for three against the Red Birds before coming home for three against the Reds of Cincinnati.
Saturday, November 29, 2014
CY Young's Opening Day No Hitter
Cy Young(1-0) thrilled the fans at Huntington Ave Grnds as he crafted a no-hit
masterpiece against the Washington Senators. The Boston Red Sox won by a
final score of 1 to 0.
Young gave the home town fans an afternoon that they'll never forget. He
walked 2 Washington batters. What a day for the fans. They were on the edge
of their seats from the 7th inning on. With every out, the electricity in
the air mounted. Boston managed 7 hits in their victory.
Charlie Smith(0-1) was hit with the loss. He pitched 8 innings giving up 7
hits and 3 walks. 'I gave it everything I had. It's probably the greatest day
of my life,' Young said. 'I was out there focusing on my catcher's glove,
that's all. I just concentrated on pitching my game.'
BOXSCORE: 1908 Washington Senators At 1908 Boston Red Sox 4/14/1908
Senators AB R H RBI AVG Red Sox AB R H RBI AVG
O.Pickering CF 4 0 0 0 .000 J.Thoney LF 4 0 0 0 .000
B.Ganley LF 3 0 0 0 .000 H.Lord 3B 4 0 0 0 .000
J.Delahanty 2B 3 0 0 0 .000 J.McHale CF 4 0 1 1 .250
O.Clymer RF 3 0 0 0 .000 D.Gessler RF 3 0 1 0 .333
J.Freeman 1B 3 0 0 0 .000 F.Laporte 2B 4 0 2 0 .500
G.Street C 2 0 0 0 .000 B.Unglaub 1B 3 0 0 0 .000
G.McBride SS 3 0 0 0 .000 H.Wagner SS 4 0 1 0 .250
B.Shipke 3B 2 0 0 0 .000 L.Criger C 2 1 1 0 .500
C.Smith P 3 0 0 0 .000 C.Young P 3 0 1 0 .333
-- -- -- --- -- -- -- ---
Totals 26 0 0 0 Totals 31 1 7 1
Senators........ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 0
Red Sox......... 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 - 1 7 0
Senators (0-1) IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA SCORESHEET
C.Smith LOSS(0-1) 8 7 1 1 3 2 0 128 1.13 A1
Totals 8 7 1 1 3 2 0
Red Sox (1-0) IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA SCORESHEET
C.Young WIN(1-0) 9 0 0 0 2 4 0 112 0.00 A1
Totals 9 0 0 0 2 4 0
ATTENDANCE- 32,324 DATE- Monday, April 14th 1908 TIME- Day WEATHER- Bad
T- 1:39
LEFT ON BASE- Senators: 1 Red Sox: 9
DOUBLE PLAYS- Senators: 0 Red Sox: 1
DOUBLES- H.Wagner(1st)
RBIs- J.McHale(1st)
WALKS- G.Street, B.Shipke, D.Gessler, B.Unglaub, L.Criger
STRIKE OUTS- O.Pickering, O.Clymer, J.Freeman, B.Shipke, J.Thoney, C.Young
GIDP- G.McBride
2-out RBI- J.McHale
RLISP 2-out- O.Pickering, D.Gessler, C.Young-2, H.Lord, H.Wagner
AL Standings April 14, 1908
LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 1908 National League
ACTUAL-TODATE ACTUAL-TOTAL
WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# WON LOS PCT WON LOS PCT
1908 St. Louis SLN 1 0 1.000 ---- 154 0 1 .000 49 105 .318
1908 New York NYN 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 98 56 .636
1908 Chicago CHN 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 99 55 .643
1908 Boston BON 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 63 91 .409
1908 Pittsburgh PIN 0 1 .000 1.0 1 01.000 98 56 .636
1908 Philadelphia PHN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 83 71 .539
1908 Cincinnati CIN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 73 81 .474
1908 Brooklyn BRN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 53 101 .344
Friday, November 28, 2014
Where is Honus??
From New York American November 19, 1907
Big, awkward, conscientious, good natured Honus Wagner, steady and strong in his years of baseball lore, this year established a new record for long batting success on the diamond, this being the fifth year that he has held the National League batting title. He won the batting championship with a mark of .350 and the base-running honors with 61 stolen bases.
There is no question that Wagner is the greatest all-round ball player of this or probably any other season.
From New York American December 10, 1907
Hans Wagner, the Pirates' veteran shortstop, will not be in the game next year if he takes his doctor's advice.
'Big Honus' went to see his doctor yesterday. They had a powwow over the big fellows rheumatic shoulder, the man of medicine gave his verdict--quit baseball.
'I'm comfortably fixed financially' he said, 'and I'm ready to quit . . . I am out of professional baseball for good.'
From New York American December 25, 1907
Since the public came to know that Wagner has rheumatism, every mail and every express wagon brought him hundreds of remedies, and this evening all the medicines were sent to West Penn Hospital, whose superintendent was told to do what pleased with them.
From New York Evening Mail April 1, 1908
Many contradictory stories have been published on why Honus Wagner has been holding out, but Frank Chance says the correct story has never been given the light of day.
According to the 'peerless leader' of Chicago, Wagner's refusal to play was due to trouble with Fred Clarke, the Pirates' manager.
'All this talk about Wagner quitting on account of rheumatism, chicken farm and other things is incorrect.'
'according to my information the whole trouble started over a play at the Polo Grounds last summer. Wagner has always been known as a player who worked for his individual record more than for the welfare of his team. In that game Clarke is said to have told Wagner t make a play in a certain way to help in getting him a much needed run. Honus at first refused, but when ordered to do so went to bat, made one effort as directed and then did exactly opposite from what Clarke told him. His effort failed, and Clarke called him good and hard.'
'From that day forward they have been enemies. I understand Wagner at first refused to joined the Pirates unless Clarke was released, and held out until a few day ago. That Clarke wasn't going was a cinch; it was only a question of what could be done to placate the ire of the big German. That something will be done is evident, and I expect that President Pulliam is taking a hand in getting Wagner in line.'
From New York Evening Mail April 10, 1908
Hans Wagner would take first, second and all the rest of the prizes offered in an off again up against contest. According to the very latest, as observed by the great Honus himself while passing through here last night, he will play for Pittsburgh this season. He was cornered, and after being well pumped admitted he will 'probably consent to help the team out.'
From New York Sun April 12, 1908
Fred Clarke; Without Hans Wagner I must admit I am worried. The Dutchman's decisions to leave have a very bad effect on the team, and may bring out other disappointing consequences. Pittsburgh's team, on pure dope, seems good enough to finish in the first division. As for reaching the top, I would have hopes if Wagner was with us.
NL April 14, 1908
LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 1908 National League
ACTUAL-TODATE ACTUAL-TOTAL
WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# WON LOS PCT WON LOS PCT
1908 St. Louis SLN 1 0 1.000 ---- 154 0 1 .000 49 105 .318
1908 New York NYN 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 98 56 .636
1908 Chicago CHN 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 99 55 .643
1908 Boston BON 1 0 1.000 ---- 1 01.000 63 91 .409
1908 Pittsburgh PIN 0 1 .000 1.0 1 01.000 98 56 .636
1908 Philadelphia PHN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 83 71 .539
1908 Cincinnati CIN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 73 81 .474
1908 Brooklyn BRN 0 1 .000 1.0 0 1 .000 53 101 .344
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Thursday, November 27, 2014
Replay Digest No.2
What can go wrong, will go wrong, right? Sure enough. It has been quite an adventure getting off the ground with this replay. I have had trouble finding a groove. I need to find a consistent play space. But find my myself moving around too much. I recently purchased Strat-O-Matic and the 1908 season for my stat tracking. I was going to re-enter the data for the 20 or so games I have already rolled, but as I was entering I was bored out of my mind, and couldn't jump forward in the schedule to get rolling. So I'm restarting, whose to complain since rolling is what I love, and this is a long project. I was looking forward to the long weekend and the many games to roll, get some games accumulated, some stats, and sit back in revel in the beauty of my project.
On Monday my son was sick, and we found out we had some serious plumbing issues that were causing hazardous gas to enter the house. WithStrat as my stat tracker, I'm restricted to my desktop. Normally this would be nice, but with theplumbing issues which has kept me away from home over the holidays my hands are tied. So I had to take my Apba on the road. Guess what? That means I can't roll games that are related to my season since I can't track stats without the dilmea of re-entry. So I'm at a cross roads. I spent the money on Strat, but hate the restriction. I would roll games related to my season, but would have to endure the entry that I dread. So once the I get the plumbing fixed I can return home, but that comes with a prices of chores left undone. So my Thanksgivng roll-a-thon is practically shot. However, the best thing about being a teacher is the 2 week Christmas break.
This brings me to a major question. Which is better? Paper or electronic entry? I spend a lot of time reading The Sporting Life rebuilding lineups I want to do manual entry but don't have the time nor the patience to tally up stats. Iscore is nice but not for keeping detailed stats. This is certainly a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too."
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